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Which is faster

Posted: 8/20/10 7:13pm Message 1 of 14
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Given two identical c-6's, which is faster in acceleration and top speed...???  An 6 speed automatic (with paddle shifts) or a manual trans...???


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Posted: 8/23/10 8:50am Message 2 of 14
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Posted: 8/25/10 1:12pm Message 3 of 14
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Auto 6sp, no chance on missing.


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Posted: 8/28/10 9:23am Message 4 of 14
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... assuming the same driver is shifting at the same shifts points ... and in a straight line?
 
Hoards of drag-strip fans use a powerglide transmission (or similar), to purposely eliminate potential human error with a clutch.  Personally (and I could be wrong), I do not believe paddle shifters yield the same control as you have with a manual shift transmission. 



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Posted: 8/31/10 8:52am Message 5 of 14
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Automatic. The computer takes away the human error.


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Posted: 8/31/10 10:47am Message 6 of 14
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 I switched from my '07 C6 w/auto to an '08 w/manual, and the automatic couldn't compare with the jump of the 6-speed when popping the clutch at about 3500rpm. Yes, if you think that you're prone to making human errors, get the slush-box instead. But for me, the enjoyment factor alone of the 6-speed vs. the automatic is 300 percent greater.
Another reason I went to the 6-speed, besides it giving me greater control, is the awkward and possibly dangerous delays that can occur when the automatic downshifts, e.g. like when needed entering a freeway from the on-ramp. It was embarrassing almost getting rear-ended because I had to wait for the automatic to decide what gear it wanted to be in. 


2008 C6 Coupe, LS3, Blk/Blk, 6M Z51, 3LT


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Posted: 8/31/10 11:18am Message 7 of 14
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I used the specifications for a 2007 C6 to take a look at this question, because those were the specs I had at hand. Aside from the transmissions, the cars still won't be identical. That's because the final drive ratio with the 6L80-E automatic transmission is 2.56 to 1, while the ratio with a six speed manual is 3.42 to 1.

Transmission gear ratios are considerably different too.  On the automatic first thru sixth have ratios of 4.02, 2.36, 1.53, 1.15, 0.85 and 0.67 to 1. The standard six speed manual has ratios of 2.66, 1.78, 1.30, 1.00, 0.74, and 0.50 to 1. With the Z51 performance package the six speed manual's ratios are 2.97, 2.07, 1.43, 1.00, 0.74, and 0.50 to 1. The axle ratios help to even things out however.
 
If a stock LS2 or LS3 produces enough horsepower to push a C6 that fast, then each of the three versions (automatic, manual, and Z51 manual) will be computer limited to 186 miles per hour when they're still in fifth gear.  At that, they each would be at quite a bit less than the engine's 6,500 RPM redline when the computer shut 'em down. So I think they're equals in top speed. Even in theoretical top speed, I think they're each within one mile per hour of the other two.  The standard manual transmission car and the Z51 manual transmission car are in fact identical when above third gear.
 
As for acceleration, I think in theory the Z51 manual transmission car should have a slight edge. In practice however, I think the computer running the 6L80-E automatic, in full automatic mode (without using the paddle shifters) will win most drag races. Most of us can't shift a manual transmission with the precision and speed of a good automatic transmission. And in my experience the paddle shifters are more useful for downshifts than they are for upshifting.
tgstoner2010-08-31 11:24:54


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Posted: 9/13/10 8:02pm Message 8 of 14
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I have had 3 2010 GS Convertibles.  first one stick- best pass  12.98@113 mph. second one auto-best pass 12.86@111 mph. Now have Callaway Supercharged GS Convertible-auto- best pass 11.43@125 mph.  The stick is fun but cant beat(very often) a automatic at the drag strip. The Callaway is a BEAST!!!


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Posted: 10/2/10 12:46pm Message 9 of 14
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New best in the Callaway today--11.27@126.36 mph


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Posted: 10/2/10 12:50pm Message 10 of 14
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This is running in stock form-no air out of the tires-NO SLICKS!


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